Don't overfocus on social justice communities when the problem is more general than that. PJ's comment, and much of yours, in many places reminded me of another category of online community: incels. Let's list the commonalities: wallowing, corumination, victimhood as identity, competitive victimhood to an extent in the form of a belief that others could not possibly understand our pain and women having their own love life difficulties could not possibly be having our problem and don't belong in our community, an explosion of subidentities, a community that doesn't really function as one and focuses people on themselves, and of course poor mental health. And one could probably find other examples of types of communities with these problems. So I'm doubtful that this is all that specific to social justice ideology. What is it about online communities that makes them frequently gravitate towards this and what's could fix this?
Ok, but if you look at figure 8 and 9 you can see that political ideology is correlated. How many incels are lefties and how many incels are women? I'm not really sure about the political leanings of incels but I'm pretty sure that most of them are men. Why would the mental health of lefty women decline the earliest and strongest? I don't think for women this can be explained by inceldom.
You could hypothesize that what leads to a decline in mental health on the left is Critical Social Justice activism for women and inceldom for men and that both communities are about equally as damaging, but I don't think we have data for this.
There might be data on the political leanings of incel men by now.
Forgot to respond to this. I am not suggesting incels are driving this trend. If ideological communities were driving this, social justice would be the bigger factor because it is a bigger community and more influential. What I am arguing is that causality largely goes in the other direction -- social media dynamics leads to these kind of communities and elevate these kinds of behaviors, resulting in the invention or growing influence of these kinds of victimhood ideologies.
Do incels have an overarching ideology like Critical Social Justice? Does academia teach and celebrate incel ideology? Does a publicly declared "incel" identity grant access to leading academic positions? Do incels consider themselves morally superior to non-incels?
Critical Social Justice is about power. Victimhood is the prerequisite for access to power. The splintering in sub-identities and micro-communities is not just the result of common ingroup-outgroup-behavior, but a side-effect of CSJ's concept of intersectionality. You gain social status by belonging to multiple "oppressed" identities.
In CSJ there is a social benefit to being more "opressed" and more victimized than your peers.
Don't overfocus on social justice communities when the problem is more general than that. PJ's comment, and much of yours, in many places reminded me of another category of online community: incels. Let's list the commonalities: wallowing, corumination, victimhood as identity, competitive victimhood to an extent in the form of a belief that others could not possibly understand our pain and women having their own love life difficulties could not possibly be having our problem and don't belong in our community, an explosion of subidentities, a community that doesn't really function as one and focuses people on themselves, and of course poor mental health. And one could probably find other examples of types of communities with these problems. So I'm doubtful that this is all that specific to social justice ideology. What is it about online communities that makes them frequently gravitate towards this and what's could fix this?
Ok, but if you look at figure 8 and 9 you can see that political ideology is correlated. How many incels are lefties and how many incels are women? I'm not really sure about the political leanings of incels but I'm pretty sure that most of them are men. Why would the mental health of lefty women decline the earliest and strongest? I don't think for women this can be explained by inceldom.
You could hypothesize that what leads to a decline in mental health on the left is Critical Social Justice activism for women and inceldom for men and that both communities are about equally as damaging, but I don't think we have data for this.
There might be data on the political leanings of incel men by now.
Forgot to respond to this. I am not suggesting incels are driving this trend. If ideological communities were driving this, social justice would be the bigger factor because it is a bigger community and more influential. What I am arguing is that causality largely goes in the other direction -- social media dynamics leads to these kind of communities and elevate these kinds of behaviors, resulting in the invention or growing influence of these kinds of victimhood ideologies.
Do incels have an overarching ideology like Critical Social Justice? Does academia teach and celebrate incel ideology? Does a publicly declared "incel" identity grant access to leading academic positions? Do incels consider themselves morally superior to non-incels?
Critical Social Justice is about power. Victimhood is the prerequisite for access to power. The splintering in sub-identities and micro-communities is not just the result of common ingroup-outgroup-behavior, but a side-effect of CSJ's concept of intersectionality. You gain social status by belonging to multiple "oppressed" identities.
In CSJ there is a social benefit to being more "opressed" and more victimized than your peers.